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[plweston]

I have a concern for the size of trailers being included in the Grove.  At the first event it was all teardrops which was great!  I felt it was being a good steward and gentle on the forest grounds ... not to mention allowing for more space.

The following year a stand-up arrived and, of course, they were not turned away however, with more tin cans arriving it seems to be less an appreciation for what we have and where we are and more just another crowded RV park.

Am I overreacting to possible damage to this beautiful place?  Will someone else please give their point of view.

Pat

[P Smurf]

We go to several teardrop/vintage rallys every year & are ok with that but like to have all teardrop events also.  If this were a democracy & I had a vote I would vote for an all teardrop IRG.  There does not seem to be a problem maxing out Pamplin Grove with teardrops.

[mvperini]

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Yea i know this post is over a year old. for some reason i keep reading this subjet ever time i log on but was never sure on how to respond.
Concerns over possible damage to the grove by including a few canned hams i belive is a mute point. As the grove is rented out during the year to a varity of other groups which we have no control over.
   As for a over crowed campground the limit is not on trailers but on the number of people, I love looking at Teardrops and small canned hams, most of the people that have a canned ham or TTT started with a teardrop trailer. Also i have noticed that the average age for teardroppers is getting a little older, and with that comes concerns about camping in teardrops
and the logical move would be to a tiny trailer. I think we have to remember that the people that showed up with the tiny trailers the last 2 events are the same people that showed up before with there teardrop trailer. Same great people and friends just not in a teradrop
IMHO

Mike

[The Teardrop Nanny]

Hi Folks-
Dean and I have always said that you need teardrop spirit and asked that people camp with us.  They came and at the early bird gatherings we didn't even have a teardrop or TTT.  I remember this well -- that is how we began in this adventure with a core group of supporters and teardrop enthusiasts.  From the inaugural event we billed it as a gathering for teardrops and tiny travel trailers, but I spent the event in a tent for the first one, borrowed a TD for the 2nd, bought a TD for the 3rd myself, and continue to encourage Dean on his teardrop build for the 4th.

* Don't want to exclude small trailers and don't want to be a hypocrite cuz we ( the event hosts and organizers ), did not even have a teardrop for the first 2 gatherings.  So..... this being said, we welcome teardrops and tiny travel trailers, realizing people have a choice in some cases of which trailer to bring, or even tent camp.  The smaller the better, but sometimes circumstances necessitate bringing a different style or size, and we have enjoyed seeing a variety of alternate tiny trailers.

 The rangers have said that we have taken good care in informing our campers about area sensitivity for the last 3 events.  This includes NOT camping on ANY green vegetation around the base of the trees, keeping dog fecal matter picked up and animal on leash, not tethering animal to tree area or surrounding vegetation, and cooking with Dutch Ovens on a raised surface so that coal burn marks are not left on the ground.  Those were the 4 things they said we could show improvement upon.  This was advice given to us the last day when Dean an I did a final check out with them.

 Dean and I have discussed, at great length, whether we should reduce the number of vehicles and trailers as to limit the number of them and NOT try to reach the maximum occupancy of people.  We are limited to a certain number of people due to water usage amounts.  We are awaiting the camp out at the PWD and will then we see if anything has changed with county regulations in regards to occupancy.  Another consideration is the cost.  Every event the price of renting the grove, especially for the weekend, has  gone up, but we maintained a $30 fee for the event whether you camped one day or five.  Allowing more people to register helps pay this base fee, and I have always subsidized more $$ myself for this event on top of the registration fee.  Others have also helped by contributing more than the cost of the event and every bit of it is pooooured back into the event. Depending on this year's price for rental which is set by the County, Dean and I are certain the fee will go up to $40-50 for 1-4 days of camping, ( includes continental breakfast ).  We still think this range is a good price considering the cost of campgrounds, and you can camp 3-4 nights for the price.  Dean and I will finalize plans over Christmas/New Years as we will have lots of time sitting around to decide.  Thanks so much for your continued support of this event.  Stay tuned....                        Joanie 

[mvperini]

Thanks Joanie  :)for the clarification on the type of camping allowed at IRG. The wife wanted to bring the 57 Cardinal [12ft trailer] more comfort. and i wanted to show off the restoration that we did.

Mike and Zellie

[The Teardrop Nanny]

ooohh, Mike I saw a picture of the 57 on the T&TT site--what a beaut!, but yes, we love your little TD and vintage tow vehicle too.  Keep watching for the New Year's next day post.

[mvperini]

Thanks Joanie
Thats the problem with having more than one trailer. Now we have another one , the 56 roadmaster after all the upgrades this winter we will be taking the roadmaster to a few vintage trailer rallys next year. and we have campouts next year using the teardrop and the canned ham. its a good thing that the wife loves to camp and loves the tiny trailers
1947 kenskill teardrop [road trip to 08 IRG] click on photos to go to photo albums

1957 cardinal [canned ham] primitive camping oregon coast Mt. range

1956 roadmaster [park model 18ft] with custom built rock guard

Mike

[mvperini]

photos of trailers in above post


Mike

[Gage]

Boy I hope no one complains about my Tiny Travel Trailer. It leaves a smaller foot print than my teardrop

[mvperini]

I do not kown gage that trailer sure looks tall


Mike

[Gage]

I do not kown gage that trailer sure looks tall
Mike

That's OK, the branches are high on those tall trees.

[mvperini]

That's OK, the branches are high on those tall trees. now thats funny gage. we will be bringing our 57 cardinal which also has a smaller foot print than the 47 kenskill with all the canvas and poles and ropes

Mike